Student Arrested for “Suspected Terrorist Activity”
A Chinese student has been arrested in Texas, charged with “Suspected Terrorist Activity”. This student was apprehended after parents discovered that he had used plans of his High School in the creation of a map for an online first person shooter. The authorities were notified after parents learned of the map from their children, who had downloaded it off of the internet.
“They arrested him,” Chen said of FBISD police, “and also went to the house to search.” The Lin family consented to the search, and a hammer was found in the boy’s room, which he used to fix his bed, because it wasn’t in good shape, Chen said. He indicated police seized the hammer as a potential weapon.
While no charges have been filed against the student, he has been removed from Clements High School and will not be allowed to graduate with his former classmates.
I don’t know what to say. For most of us who have ever designed a 3d environment, using familiar surroundings is very commonplace. With no sinister motive, designers use plans for all sorts of different areas to add variety to their designs. I don’t understand the punishment given to this student, who has been cleared of any premonitions for violence.
He has been convicted of no crime but then the school expels him? I guess “innocent until proven guilty” has no merit with the school board. Even with the authorities finding no evidence of gaming-related causes for the Virginia Tech shootings… It seems that we, as gamers, still are targeted as warped killers.
[source: Fort Bend Now]
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:39 am
You forgot this happened in Texas. I used to go to FBISD schools and they dont play around. Im sure the guy had no intentions but the way america is now if you say the word bomb in the wrong place your likely to get arrested. On another note I have several friends who attend Clements High School and I had not heard about this thanks for the update.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 am
Quick ! Call the national guard and have the GTA IV production team arrested ! They used New York in a vido game, they must be terrorists !
While it’s good to see they didn’t take any chances with this case, I wonder if expelling him was really a good choice, we all do stupid things when we’re kids. Plus, we don’t have the full story, like if the people you shoot in the game are other students or faculty, etc…
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:55 am
@seb:
Thanks for the heads-up, I changed the article to make it clearer that the incident happened in Texas.
@somewhat:
He just made a level, not a full game. Much like any other map.. in say.. Counter-strike.
The level is there for the players to play on. It featured no other objectives other than ones found in the original game that the level was designed for.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:14 am
Wow. The school’s reaction was a little over the top then.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 am
Wow…thats a big crock of shit. A kid got arrested for making a model of his school to use in a video game.
And…OH SNAP! He’s got a hammer in his room right now. HE COULD BE A TERRORIST!
Wake the fuck up America…it is ridiculous.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 am
Hope he sues their ass off.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Ok this is retarded. I hate to put that bluntly but it is. What is with the hammer in the room? Geez fucking America wake up are you going to go around and arrest everyone who owns a hammer because they are a suspected terroist now? I think not cause a hammer is a common household item idiot. Anyways this is ridiculous, gamers have always been under attack. What is wrong with using a commonplace for a map? It is a start to use some place common for the designer because they know the terrain better duh! Are we going to go around and arrest every gamer we come across now huh? I hope the ACLU becomes involed in this as they already might be. I hope this guy does get to graduate and move on with his life, sad to see this end up as news though.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:13 pm
I did a map of my school back when DukeNukem 3D was cool, I also did a map of my house… last time I checked my family and classmates were just fine….. this is RETARDED
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:13 pm
Two sides of the coin :
On one side, if the maps get distributed and all the kids start playing it, they might act it out in real life and then its VT all over again.
On the other side, the frustrated kid wouldn’t have gone shooting his classmates in real life because he could do it on his computer - safely and without anyone knowing.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Geez!!
This is ABSOLUTELY not the correct reaction. How about some positive reinforcement here, people.
“Wow, you recreated your school in 3D, I could never do that- GOOD FOR YOU! You’re so talented”
instead of “Oh crap, this kid’s got more potential than I do… get rid of him!”
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:50 pm
This is ridiculous. It’s normal to start designing game levels by emulating a familiar surrounding. But thanks to Bush’s culture of terror, fear, and thought police, this is now a crime.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:11 pm
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May 2nd, 2007 at 2:13 pm
This is lame. Back when Doom I came out a friend of mine made a map from my university’s math and comp.sci building. The favorite admin’s room had the chainsaw…
Ah the memories.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:19 pm
It just shows the ignorance of school administrators if they really did expel him. I’ve always wanted to make a map of a familiar place.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Surprise, Surprise, Life’s not fair… This kid is learning a very valuable lesson, you don’t make a high school massacre training program based around the school you attend. Sounds like the smart kid with no commonsense syndrome.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:26 pm
Thats dreadful people have more freedom in North Korea, there are 3 guys in my college course who are making a map for UT2004 of my college campus ffs and they’ll get an A for it too lol not get arrested.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Someone sent me this with the note “Hey, weren’t we planning on doing this?”
During college we were CS-ophiles and thought about setting up a map of our dorm. I guess I’m now a little glad we were too lazy but still, it was all in fun. You CAN have fun and be politically incorrect, right? Sounds like the school is just covering their asses… hope he gets a good settlement, maybe that will teach them
And incidentally, the idea that kids might “act” it out doesn’t really fly with me. If kids are going to kill a bunch of people I fail to see the causal mechanism between playing a CS level and deciding to murder.
Just because lots of killers play video games doesn’t mean much… lots of killers drink orange juice, too.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Last time I checked, all my gamer friends were less violent than me. They’re the least likely people to do ANYTHING in real life, let alone try to re-enact something that is much more easily, and satisfyingly done by virtual means.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:38 pm
[...] I saw this article and it made me angry, so I thought I would post it. It seems some kid made a FPS mod map based on blueprints of his high school. When kids in the class told their parents, parents told the police, and the police arrested the boy on “Suspicion of Terrorist Activity.” Apparently, a hammer found in the boy’s room (which he claims was used to repair his broken bed) was used as evidence in the arrest. [...]
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:39 pm
That’s not cool at all. In freshman year of college, I made a 3d map of my dorm for Counterstrike because it was popular on campus and I thought it would be cool.
It had absolutely nothing to do with getting a real gun or threatening real people whatsoever. If anything, it was a social activity — “Hey, remember when I shot you from the roof with a pistol and you couldn’t hit me with a sniper rifle?”
“Shutup dude”
That’s male bonding at its best.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:44 pm
When I was in high school my AC2 teacher encouraged me to make a counter-strike map modeled after the school.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:44 pm
ok Mazz. stop taking all the diggs
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:46 pm
No john, no they will not act it out in real life. If you’re mentally stable you’re not going to go on a shooting spree in school because you played the map in a stupid game. You might argue ‘oh, but we don’t know that everyone is mentally stable there!’ Good point, not, if a person is mentally unstable they should not be in school or even in society.
You shouldn’t play a game either, in a real life setting, to kill people and pretend that they are others in real life, that is not fun. That is psychotic.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:55 pm
well duh, hes a minority in a red state
what can i say, the real terrorists have won. thanks amerika!
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:10 pm
What kind of parents call the police after learning their child downloaded a map of their highschool for a FPS? The kid didn’t even make the map. Did the parents even ask their child’s side of the story?
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:15 pm
I actually moddelled my school for CS:S as well in the holidays because I fancied playing in it :p
Arrested? This is such BS I can’t believe I’m reading it.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:20 pm
@John
Last time I checked, video games had nothing to do with VT. Matter of fact, no one besides to quacks even mentioned video games in VT.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:21 pm
You know, it’s funny. I’m also Chinese, and back in middle school, I wanted to design a map based on my middle school. The best part is, I actually did hate the school and did want to nuke the shit out of it and shoot everyone there. Oops, I didn’t just say that. Anyway, it’s a good thing I didn’t make the map; I’d probably be on Death Row right now, because if they searched my room, they would’ve found a few screwdrivers in addition to my hammer collection. Oh, and don’t forget my collection of rock albums and first person shooters. What the hell is wrong with this world?
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:26 pm
What a crock of shit. People need to calm down. WOW he made a map in a game of his school. Hell plenty people I know think it would be cool to play paintball in their school. I do not know what the big deal is. WOW he had a HAMMER. BIG WOOPIE DO.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:31 pm
The guy above me (John Adams) has to be a politician. Again, as stated bey the article above there has been no evidence linking the VT shooting and video games. Plus, if you can’t distinguish the difference between reality and a game, then you should be in a mental institution. In closing to John’s second comment. Who said anything about the Texas kid being frustrated?
I’ve shot horror movies at my old school where students have been killed without even a word from the administration. In, fact I won an award from the school for it. I think
that is much “worse” than what that student did.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:31 pm
In add to Seb656…
Some time ago 2 brazilian guys went to USA carrying a water pump… when the airport police asked them what they are carrying they answered “A bomb” (in portuguese, Pump and Bomb have the same name: “Bomba”)… They were arrested and one of them had his visa confiscated and will never come back to USA… because of a speak mistake…
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:36 pm
OK thats was just insanely stupid. You do not make a map for a Fps of your school not in the days of jack (Thompson). I would have deleted the things weeks ago after the ct shootings. Come on there is dumb then there is dumb.In the times of pb (Pre bush) this would have been fun and cool to do hell maybe even would have been a great cad class or art class project but not now. Hell you can’t take coffee on a plane what makes you think designing a map that looks like a public place that can be used to train and kill people. Come on common sense people. This is why I am a strong believer in natural selection if you play with explosives get blown up why should society have to deal with your breeding. This is what is going to lead to an idiocracy type world in the future.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:55 pm
This is ridiculous. A long time ago I went to high-school with a pair of talented comic-book enthusiasts. They created a comic book with an apocolytpic battle taking place in our high school and largely demolishing it. Needless to say, they got into the business and are doing very well. But if they did that today, they’d be doing 10 to 20.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:10 pm
This guy probably had no intention at all of even acting out violence virtually (or at least not for that reason alone). Who plays games just for the violence? As already pointed out, known environments are used all the time by everyone. At one point I was making a map based on my school. I went as far as asking for a copy of the plans (the school governors rejected my request due to copyright issues). It ended up failing due to scaling problems. For the most part my school was actually encouraging me, since they would get a virtual version of the school out of it. If this guy only made a map, not a full mod (so no models, etc) the only reason that the school board would have had is copyrights, and then it’d be up for debate.
Mind you, if he had made the map perfect I can imagine the amount of frustration he could have had by the end. Perfect representations are not easy. If he had had ANY violent tendencies, he would have shown them when he discovered that his the hallways were to low (or any number of headaches you get when you try to model a known building).
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Some violent psychopaths become gamers but no gamer just becomes a psychopath. Well, If I would do such a thing in my country (Switzerland) I wouldn’t get arrested but in trouble with my school officals I suppose.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:15 pm
Seriously, WTF?
Why do they point out that he was a Chinese student? What merit does this point make for the story? Would they have pointed it out if he were white?
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:19 pm
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May 2nd, 2007 at 4:42 pm
The comment about the hammer being seized made me laugh out loud. “Holy shit, a hammer.” “Dude , this guy is definitely up to something.” I’m just glad I never finished my map of my school. They search my room and be like, “He’s got a pen knife, fireworks, and…omg, buddhist books. He’s a terrorist, no doubt about it.”
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:57 pm
I don’t think anyone here can name one aspiring level designer who DIDN’T make a map of his school
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:05 pm
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May 2nd, 2007 at 5:25 pm
This is not an isolated occurance.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:27 pm
I certainly think it warranted attention, but expelling him…come on. And taking his hammer to boot? He’ll never be able to go to a hardware store and buy a new one.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:51 pm
So where can this map be downloaded?
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:06 pm
@John Adams:
It has been confirmed by the VT shooter’s roomate that he never played any video games. To say that it would be a similar case is wrong .
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:08 pm
“On one side, if the maps get distributed and all the kids start playing it, they might act it out in real life and then its VT all over again.”
Or maybe they could just find it fun to play a game in an environment they recognise, and not do anything psychopathic. Did the possibility that this might have no effect whatsoever on their likelihood to actually shoot someone ever occur to you?
Violent games don’t turn normal kids into killers - its the other way around, people with potential psychopathic tendencies enjoy violent games. Maybe a particular game tips a particular person over the edge on a specific occasion, but without it they would probably end up doing something terrible anyway. No reason to deny millions of people a harmless pleasure (perhaps a more logical step to prevent people shooting each other would be to remove guns from their everyday life)
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:31 pm
“Two sides of the coin :
On one side, if the maps get distributed and all the kids start playing it, they might act it out in real life and then its VT all over again.
On the other side, the frustrated kid wouldn’t have gone shooting his classmates in real life because he could do it on his computer - safely and without anyone knowing.”
Two sides of the coin my ass. To put it bluntly this is guilty until proven innocent. There is no law prohibiting the creating of maps resembling actual locations. Hence why he isn’t charged with anything, but the dumb school system has gotten around that by suspending him which requires no court case and no law being broken.
I can only hope these impulsive decisions can be overturned. Just imagine if you were this person.
You were just making a map for fun and then all of a sudden you are arrested and treated like you were trying to pull off another 9/11. I mean what is this “SUSPECTED TERRORIST ACTIVITY” that is insane. The most he should be suspected of is insanity which is already taking it pretty far. What if you were just randomly accused of being insane and had to have an extensive examination. That is bad enough, but “SUSPECTED TERRORIST ACTIVITY”? I can’t find the words to describe this.
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:33 pm
Over-reaction is something most Americas do extremely well. Asians at school (thanks to vtech) targeted because of insane over reaction and fear, gamers are targeted because the people in power do not understand them. Humans instinctively fear what they do not understand. We wouldn’t be here today if we were inquisitive peaceful beings, since another dominate species would have eaten us. Once the people in power step down, and the new generation take control, then the view on gamers will be substantially different, as these new people in power will understand the implications behind it.
Real world modeling is something which is going to become more and more popular as time goes on. People will recreate our current planet slowly and put it online, with the ability to travel anywhere on the globe whenever you want, to see various sights, to explore, to create. Making a map of a school is something I think a lot of kids want to do, but don’t know how. I’ve got a cousin who’s making a map of his school in the half-life 2 engine sdk.
I’m a very strong believer in the stress reliving activities games offer. Bad day at work? Take that anger and frustration out on a video game, perhaps even in a game world which is similar to your real workplace. My view is, if anyone can be turned into a mass murderer because of playing a video game, then their mental stability is in question in the first place. It’s not the game’s fault the person was mentally unstable. Perhaps games can trigger negative responses in mentally unstable people, but the same could be said for violent movies, and news footage showing dead bodies in the streets.
Anyone else find it funny that valve have an editor called Hammer, while this student’s hammer was taken for evidence?
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:09 pm
This is just a knee-jerk reaction left over from the VT massacre. However the school should know better, expelling the kid was a very bad decision on their part. The people behind the decision don’t have his best interests in mind, and that’s a shame.
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:42 pm
That’s crazy. At my school, one of our assignments was to create a CounterStrike: Source map of the school to play on.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pm
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May 2nd, 2007 at 9:36 pm
If this student wasn’t a potential shooter before, he will be now. Injustice and bullying push some people beyond their capacity to control their actions. Our society needs to protect the innocent until proven guilty. Then, and only then, can you punish them. Why are we always punishing innocent people before they are found guilty?? Is that what we were really taught in Civics class?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Thank god I live in Australia!
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:48 pm
At John Adams:
I dont think the idea of having a fps in a map makes you any more likely to shoot up the real place. People are able to distinguish between real life and a video game.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:22 pm
John Adams, here’s another possibility. He’s not a frustrated kid with anti-social desires. He’s just a kid fucking around with level maps. What the fuck.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 pm
When a friend of mine did this back in high school, he used Duke Nukem 3D, and the actual blueprints for the school. Our comp prof gave him an A, and it spawned an after school FPS club.
Somewhere we have gone terribly wrong
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 pm
*Sarcasm* Hes clearly a terrorist people, I mean hes not a white protestant male, so therefore he is a terrorist. We have to arrest these people to keep what American stands for.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:51 pm
Yes what you say is true John Adams. Who said anything about shooting classmates in the article? FPS could have any monster or demon in there or people. No where in this article was the individual described as “distrubed”. I would really like to see how this plays out in the end. Please keep us updated on this story.
On the same day of the VT shootings women and children were killed in Iraq yet almost no footage of them was aired on television. There was no restrictions on the media which in itself needs to be in check. The media spent a good week on the VT and the shooter himself. They did not go into very much detail about the other people who risked their lives for others, the heroes of the VT shooting. They chose to bring fame to a decesed individual who was distrubed. This article is short yet by the information given that the individual intended to kill classmates in this FPS.
Did his parents even talk to him before they alerted the police? That is a good question because this could all be a misunderstanding. The school board has no right to expel him either. I must say that schools are overstepping their boundaries on this case. Since this case involves the school and with the recent shooting at VT the american public is at a paranoia state. They will accuse and convict anyone who goes against the paranoia. They arrested him and took a hammer, what about his computer since he was designing the game, I’m sure that the computer was taken.
The general american public is blind and ignorant due to the mass amounts of media attention given to the blood makes the news crap. Yes blood sells on the news since people will watch it and ratings and sponsers go up. Geez people how many times during that day did I have to watch the same video captured on a cell phone? I lost count like after 50. I say until a thorough investigation is done, the school board should not take any action. Pretty soon when this blows over the school board will be issuing an apology to the individual if he is proven innocent which this sounds like it.
I know people are not ignorant, the value of human life has been instilled in all of us. Once taken away it can never be given back. Going back to the paranoia, the Red Scare which if anyone went out of the “normal” american way were arrested and set before a jury. Filmakers in Hollywood were threatned to make movies that did not deviate from the norm.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:23 am
Yeah well thats sort of ridiculous
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 am
This is not about gamers being under attack. This is about protecting students. While I do agree the school did not go about it the correct way, I do believe they had students best interests at heart. The student should have been suspended, not expelled, pending investigation. It is possible he was expelled considering how close to the end of the school year it is. As I said to begin with, I think the school handled the situation in the wrong way, however; if this were my school I would want him out of my class immediately. It is simply not worth the risk.
May 3rd, 2007 at 3:00 am
John I agree,
But id say that it’s more likely innocent…
In a 3d class, lots of students modeled the university campus; at the request of the tutor!
May 3rd, 2007 at 3:44 am
Or the third side - No one would have done anything at all because there was no closetted frustrated killed-to-be situated at the school in the first place.
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:39 am
lol, our school actually created a quake 2 map of the school, the IT staff used to play on it.
anyway, Oh noes a hammer!!!.
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:51 am
I hope the ACLU gets involved. This is ridiculous. I’d also encourage the map-making community to make maps of their schools out of solidarity with Chen. They can’t arrest everyone.
May 3rd, 2007 at 7:26 am
Ridiculous. I made a Doom map of my high school ten years ago, and I insist that this can be done without any thoughts of real-world violence. It’s no different from playing cops’n'robbers on the school playground.
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:01 am
Another facsist, brainless, school administration. A hammer? A digital replical of your school? Is he a terrorist or a potential architect? I demand the artist who created the scale replica of the Norfolk airport be arrested as a terrorist. He was obviously planning an attack. Game engines offer a fantastic outlet for creativity. It is a butload of fun to run through the digital environment you just created. If modern school boards, who are filled to the brim with near-sighted bureaucrats, would only recognize kids with potential like this, and channel it, rather than cutting him off so that his independent thoughts don’t endager the collective, we’d all be better off.
Psyco killers don’t spend the countless, and obviously thankless, hours it takes to recreate a real environment digitaly. Sure, some of them may play the games, but they aren’t given to wasting that much time on something that 99% of the people who view it, can’t fathom what it took to create it.
Its like something I learned, when I learned to pick locks. One book I read commented, and I’m paraphrasing, that criminals don’t pick locks, they just break a window, or kick in the door. Because lock-picking, requires great skill, and most criminals are just not willing to devote that kind of time to the art.
He should present his creation to the local college design program representative, and leave that useless High School far behind.
Rik
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:56 am
First, whoever made the decision to send this student to an alternative school and bar him from graduation needs to be killed.
Second, the cops who arrested this kid need to be killed.
Third, the family must have their hammer returned, plus 10,000 percent interest on the value of the hammer.
Finally, the family must be awarded not less than one million dollars for pain and suffering incurred.
Nothing less will be acceptable. Insufficient action is grounds for truck-bombing the school district administration building and the local police department.
May 3rd, 2007 at 10:34 am
Most ridiculous shit I’ve ever seen. How can America claim the title of “Most free country on the planet” when you can’t make a map of a public space without being arrested? This is idiotic.
May 3rd, 2007 at 11:11 am
So going on this evidence I should have been arrested a few years back when I did the exact same thing. I created a map of part of my school for counterstrike, far from being expelled my computing teacher was impressed and congratulated me on actually producing something of a high standard.
The reason for this is simple; I live in England.
I’ve been playing games for years and shock horror I have been known to have a hammer in the house. As yet I haven’t killed a single person. Wake the f**k up America, how can you victimise video games like this when guns are so freely availabe?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:03 pm
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May 3rd, 2007 at 1:32 pm
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May 3rd, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Remember de_rats? I think that was modelled after somebody’s KITCHEN! Wow, who would have guessed that we were all being programmed to be sleeper agents for an assault on that kitchen. I bet if we were all just taken to that kitchen, we’d all just suddenly whip out sniper rifles and grenades from another dimension and start fighting. LOL.
Seriously tho. Way overboard of a response on the part of the schoolboard/administrators/parents. It seems that if even one person has a problem with something, then it isn’t politically correct and everyone has to suffer with the consequences. That’s not fair at all.
Sure “life” isn’t fair, but so-called “society” is supposed to be. We made it to be just that. I’ll even contribute money to a fund for the legal battle, if I can find one.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:57 pm
A GOOD IDEA KICK THE KID OUT OF SCHOOL AND GIVE HIM THE IDEA THAT HE HAS NOTHING TO LOSE… AND RUIN HIS FUTURE, THATS ALL HE NEEDS NOW TO ACTUALLY START THINKING ABOUT RETALIATION
May 4th, 2007 at 4:55 am
every time I read a story like his it seems America does nothing but PUNISH people for creativity, how is an online game custom level classed as “terrorism” peoples ideals of peace keeping today are just fucked up.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:59 pm
I also went to Clements High School. Fort Bend ISD is ridiculous when it comes to things like this, the whole ISD is run by the parents. All it takes for something to happen is to have enough parents behind it, or a few powerful ones (aka $$$$). We called First Colony “The Bubble” for a reason.
And I also heard nothing of this from anyone still living there, including my aunt, who is a teacher in FBISD.
May 6th, 2007 at 5:55 am
It is getting silly. A little 3rd grader that I know got expelled for bringing his 1″ Cub Scout pocket knife to school. He brought it to school for “show and tell”. He had been awarded the little knife (which came with a merit badge) and was proud of his achievement, so he wanted to show everyone his reward. His reward was getting expelled from the elementary school. Idiots.
May 8th, 2007 at 7:42 pm
“This kid is learning a very valuable lesson, you don’t make a high school massacre training program based around the school you attend. Sounds like the smart kid with no commonsense syndrome.”
High School Massacre Training Program? That’s a mouthful. I suppose that he did more than just make the map then, he also must have created an AI based on all the people who were to be “massacred”, you know, to really help facilitate the whole training to be done with his program. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if he even skinned all of the AI controlled players to resemble the people he wanted to kill the most.
Sarcasm aside, I find it to be hilarious that they reported them taking the hammer, but left out anything involving taking his computer.
May 28th, 2007 at 11:25 pm
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June 1st, 2007 at 9:26 am
He has not committed a crime. Thus he can not be charged. He will be back in school and I hope he sues whoever is involved for all they are worth. The USA is a fucking police state. You can be arrested for no reason. RESIST AND START A MILITIA PROTECT YOUR FREEDOMS WITH ARMS!
June 1st, 2007 at 11:25 am
this sounds no diferent from being arrested for speaking your mind in Cuba when you don’t agree with their leader. USA government is the embodyment of hipocresy. what they did is not right. you can’t arrest someone who hasn’t done a crime. we in usa do this terrible things and then go out there in the world and do this horrible things to other countries. what the fuck is wrong with the world?
June 1st, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Where the hell is the map, maybe i can play around
June 1st, 2007 at 9:36 pm
Well I supose I better trash most the games I have seeing as though most are based on real places, gotta love the “super power” country got everyone wound so tight it’s going to be marshal law nation wide in no time at all, soon it’ll be illegal to leave your house with anything metal/sharp/liquid without being questioned/arrested
June 1st, 2007 at 10:52 pm
You’d all feel pretty dumb if he really was a terrorist. Who knows?
And the school didn’t expel him at all. He’s just not allowed to walk at graduation. There’s a big difference, it happens all the time around here.
June 2nd, 2007 at 3:38 am
^^
Ya I’m sure some geek who designs counter-strike maps is a terrorist. You better lock every nerd up then because they might hide a bomb in their laptops.
June 3rd, 2007 at 4:25 pm
@John Adams:
“On one side, if the maps get distributed and all the kids start playing it, they might act it out in real life and then its VT all over again.”
It’s people like you that are the cause of kids like these getting arrested. With this mode of thinking, people are dangerous.
Did you ever play war as a child? Did you ever play the board game Risk?
DEAR GOD!! John Adams might act out Risk in real life and take over the GODDAMN WORLD! Arrest him.
People should really learn the culture of an entity before taking such drastic measures. Why the hell did they take a hammer? While you’re at it, just take the pencils which could be sharpened and used as weapons.
I pity the ignorant.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:38 am
This is rediculous - my secondary (UK - High school) allowed a version of our science department to not only be created in Quake, but even allowed 8 students to host a charity event using said map!
America is going insane.
July 16th, 2007 at 1:25 am
Of course the hammer is ridiculous. And I am sure the kid had no intent to start a shootout in school. But would you bet your life on it? Remember Columbine? Those students wrote down plans of attack in the language of gamers, in several notebooks. People are on edge; Columbine, VT, Paducah.. you name it. So what this kid did was tantamount to yelling “fire” in a crowded theater. IF, and I repeat IF, the student had later strafed the hallways with an AK acting out his mental FPS, you’d all be saying, “But why didn’t some one do something before? They knew he was planning this!!” It may not seem fair but it is life in a world where paranoia is normal. I’m sure he won’t get in any permanent trouble, but maybe next time he’ll use truly imaginary designs, NOT his high school.
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July 8th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
This is another clear-cut example of why all hammers need trigger locks.
The map he made could be used by some crazy kid as a blueprint to shoot-up the school. I have actually found several sites that show aerial and street views of a lot of places, and should be outlawed immediately from the inter-tubes. At the risk of national security, I will list them here.
maps.google.com
mapquest.com
You know, anyone planning a school shooting could…just…go to the school and walk about and take pictures! We must therefore rise up against the liberals and ban walking, pictures, and schools!
Blueprints. Gotta ban all blueprints as they can later be used against the owner of the building. The clear path to safe civil engineering in the post 9/11 era is to just wing it without any fancy plans.
We must send to Guantanamo the following domestic terrorists / domestic terrorist entities:
-Rockstar Games for Grand Theft Auto 4’s realistic depiction of NYC, complete with killing innocents and raping babies and selling police officers to slave-drivers for drug porn sex booze money
-Activision for True Crime: Streets of NY and True Crime: Streets of LA
-All traffic reporters for outlining the bet escape routes during rush hour
-All weather reporters for helping to plan shootings on nice (or.. NOT NICE) days
…
I just shat my pants thinking about how scary my country has become.